Hamburg Private Post

[MikeC99]

I recently acquired 13 Hamburg Private Post stamps but know precious little about them and their value. I understand that private post delivery ended in 1900.  I will add the stamps in four posts and hopefully someone can help me with some info on these.

Mike

I believe that the first group of five were in use from 1886 to 1889. Hamburg  - Hammonia (I), Stadtbriefbeforderung

 

[MikeC99]

This next group of three I think were in used from 1885 to 1895. Hamburg - Hammonia(II), Privat - Beforderung

Mike

[MikeC99]

I haven't found these two anywhere.

Mike

[MikeC99]

I have not found any info on the last group of 3 stamps.
Mike

[PostmasterGS]

I'll look them up for you this weekend when I get back to my references.

[MikeC99]

PostmasterGS, thanks very much for the offer.

I saw these at an auction and something made me buy them probably because I never saw them before. I paid $8.05US for them.
Mike

[Deleted]

Here is a link to info on some of these stamps lhttp://www.stampcollectingblog.com/private-local-stamps-of-hamburg.php

[MikeC99]

@michaelcayley, thanks for the link. It provides a little more info.
Mike

[PostmasterGS]

Sept 14, 2015 19:51:16 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

The Hammonia private mail service was founded in Hamburg on 18 Oct 1886.

These issues are from a set issued in Aug 1887. To give you the specifics, I need a little more info:

1. What are the perf measurements? Two perf varieties exist (10 and 11.5).
2. White or grayish-yellow paper?

[PostmasterGS]

Sept 14, 2015 19:53:32 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

These are from a Hammonia II set released in March 1888. One question -- pef 11.5 or 14.5?

[PostmasterGS]

Sept 14, 2015 19:57:03 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

These are the first two values of the set immediately above with the train, etc. Same question -- perf 11.5 or 14.5?

[PostmasterGS]

Sept 14, 2015 20:00:53 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

The first is a registered mail stamp from March 1888. Perf 11.5 or 14.5?

The second is an express mail stamp from March 1888. Perf 11.5 or 14.5?

The third is the final value of the set from the two previous posts. Perf 11.5 or 14.5?

[samb]

The only information I can give you is that I would have given the $8 for them too... Thanks for sharing!!

[MikeC99]

Sept 18, 2015 7:44:46 GMT -5 PostmasterGS said:

Sept 14, 2015 19:51:16 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

The Hammonia private mail service was founded in Hamburg on 18 Oct 1886.

These issues are from a set issued in Aug 1887. To give you the specifics, I need a little more info:

1. What are the perf measurements? Two perf varieties exist (10 and 11.5).   PostmasterGS, the 2pf, 5pf, 15pf and 20pf stamps are 11.5 while the 3pf is 10.
2. White or grayish-yellow paper? It seems to me that the color is more grayish-yellow than white.

[MikeC99]

Sept 18, 2015 7:47:19 GMT -5 PostmasterGS said:

Sept 14, 2015 19:53:32 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

These are from a Hammonia II set released in March 1888. One question -- pef 11.5 or 14.5? PostmasterGS, the 5pf and 15pf are 11.5 while the 10 pf is 14.5.

[MikeC99]

Sept 18, 2015 7:48:51 GMT -5 PostmasterGS said:

Sept 14, 2015 19:57:03 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

These are the first two values of the set immediately above with the train, etc. Same question -- perf 11.5 or 14.5? PostmasterGS, the 2pf is 11.5 while the 3 pf is 14.5.

[MikeC99]

Sept 18, 2015 7:52:05 GMT -5 PostmasterGS said:

Sept 14, 2015 20:00:53 GMT -5 MikeC99 said:

The first is a registered mail stamp from March 1888. Perf 11.5 or 14.5?

The second is an express mail stamp from March 1888. Perf 11.5 or 14.5?

The third is the final value of the set from the two previous posts. Perf 11.5 or 14.5? PostmasterGS, all three are 11.5

[PostmasterGS]

MikeC99,

Rather than keeping the quotes going Inception-style, I'll put all three in one post:

First

Looks like MiNr 10, 16, 12, 14, & 15.

As you can see from the catalog excerpt below, the basic set (MiNr 10-15) is perf 11.5, with grayish-yellow paper for two (10, 11) and white paper for the rest (12-15).

A second printing (Neudruck) was done with perf 10 and white paper for all (no separate catalog numbers).

The 3 Pf (MiNr 11) was then reprinted on grayish-yellow paper with perf 10 (MiNr 16).



Second

MiNr 13 A, 14 B, 15 A. See catalog excerpt below.



Third

MiNr 11 A, 12 B. See catalog excerpt above.

Fourth

MiNr 17 A, 18 A, 16 A. See catalog excerpts above and below.

[MikeC99]

PostmasterGS, thanks very much for providing the detailed info on these stamps. Is this info from a specialized Michel catalogue? By the way, with regard to the 1887 stamps with the picture of the ship that you identify as MiNr 10, 16, 12, 14, & 15, the value of each is shown but I'm not sure what each of the 3 columns represent. The other stamps show 2 values for mint hinged and used but I see that the ship stamps have a third column.
Mike

[PostmasterGS]

MikeC99,

The data is from Michel's Privatpostmarken-Spezial 2005/2006 Band 1: Deutsche Privatpostmarken bis 1900 (Private Postage Stamp Specialized Volume 1: German Private Postage Stamps to 1900).

Sorry about the crop -- got a little crop happy. The three columns are MH, used, and on cover.