Azerbaijan Help....

[kacyds]

Found these two stamps in a homemade album and I cant find them in my Scott Catalog.  

Was hoping maybe dcstamps , khj or anyone else could shed some light on these.

Thanks.

[darkormex]

kacyds, I thought I had a bookmark to a website with information on these but can't seem to locate it. I am pretty sure these came up as a topic on SB1...someone here knows more about them.

[dcstamps]

These are Bogus stamps.

These are part of a set of six

I will try and find out more info

Michael

[dcstamps]

Here is some additional information I found at: Stamp Collecting Blog

These are from a  "somewhat common set of bogus issues (or as Michel calls these in footnote – ‘Schwindelausgabe’) for “White Azerbaijan”. These were printed 1923 in Italy, with a volume of 250,000 perforated sets, and 250,000 imperforated sets."

Michael

[kacyds]

Wow, that was fast.

Thanks for all the help, you guys rock!!!!!!

[khj]

I'm late chiming in again.

Michael already did a great job of posting the background info and the full set of 6 perforates.

This set is rather interesting because this "bogus" issue has forgeries!!!

The right stamp shown by Kris appears to be genuine (does that make sense when talking about bogus stamps?). The stamp at left is a little harder to determine -- but it is not the more common forgery, and is likely genuine as well.

The stamps shown by Michael appear to contain a mixture of forged and genuine stamps, but it is a little hard to tell because the image appears small on my screen. The most common forgery is a very coarse printing. Some of the better printed forgeries also have very very minute design differences -- those are more difficult to distinguish.

The genuine stamps are either perf 11.5 or imperforate. But so are some of the forgeries. But if the stamp is perf 11, it is definitely a forgery. Also, all the rough perf stamps that I have seen have all been forgeries. However, have good clean perfs does not mean the stamp is genuine.

[dcstamps]

Thanks Kim

The stamps I showed were not mine, I just couldn't find the couple that I have somewhere. 

It is funny that people would counterfeit bogus issues.  Another example is the Theriso issues discussed on the Dead Country Thread.

Michael