Peru Forgery Discussion

[kacyds]

Came across these two stamps and I think one of them is a forgery....



Scott# 22 with grill and Perf. 12, Genuine 





No grill and Perf. 13 (rough perfs), Forgery?

Maybe someone can shed some light on this.  Maybe sforgca ?

Thanks

[khj]

[disregard what I originally posted]

The bottom stamp is indeed, a known forgery. Congratulations!

[kacyds]

Scott doesnt list that design stamp with a perf. 13 and it doesnt list it without a grill.

Genuine stamp measures 19 x 24.

Forgery stamp measures 19½ x 24½.

[khj]

From Earée p381:

[kacyds]

khj, great info. Thanks for verifying what I thought all along. Now I probably have to ship you a case of .

[kacyds]

Also looking at the SG South America Catalouge, its listed as a SG# 25 with three colors:

#25 reddish violet
#25a mauve
#25b dull violet

[khj]

Jan 18, 2020 19:00:37 GMT -5 kacyds said:

Scott doesnt list that design stamp with a perf. 13...

Yeah, sorry about missing that earlier. This year has started off so badly that I guess I was subconsciously ignoring any 13's...

k

[khj]

Jan 18, 2020 19:12:44 GMT -5 kacyds said:

Also looking at the SG South America Catalouge, its listed as a SG# 25 with three colors:

#25 reddish violet
#25a mauve
#25b dull violet

Yes, mauve would be purple in the Rebel's English.

Michel lists only the basic violet and the purple.

[sforgca]

The stamp can be found in  (as per 3 Peru Specialized catalogs)
Lilac - 1874
Dark Violet - 1879
Carmine - 1880 - not issued - due to refusal of color standard by the UPU
Printed in New York by The National Bank Note Co.

The forgery was made by Plácido Ramón de Torres (1847-1910). A prolific illustrator and forger
His forgeries often get attributed to Spiro